Thursday, September 22, 2011

The United Nations Should Not Recognize an Apartheid, Judenrein, Islamic Palestine

The United Nations Should Not Recognize an Apartheid, Judenrein, Islamic Palestine :: Hudson New York

by Alan M. Dershowitz

September 21, 2011 at 11:30 am

The United Nations is being asked to grant the Palestinians the status of a "state," for at least some purposes. The question arises what kind of a state will it be? In an effort to attract Western support, the Palestinian Authority claims that it will become another "secular democratic state." Hamas, which won the last parliamentary election, disagrees. It wants Palestine to be a Muslim state governed by Sharia Law.

We know what the Palestinian leadership is saying to the West. Now let's look at what its saying to its own people, who will, after all, be the ultimate decision makers if Palestine is indeed a democracy.

The draft constitution for the new state of Palestine declares that "Islam is the official religion in Palestine." It also states that Sharia Law will be "the major source of legislation." It is ironic that the same Palestinian leadership which supports these concepts for Palestine refuses to acknowledge that Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people. Israel, in contrast to the proposed Palestinian state, does not have an official state religion. Although it is a Jewish state, that description is not a religious one but rather a national one. It accords equal rights to Islam, Christianity and all other religions, as well as to atheists and agnostics. Indeed, a very high proportion of Israelis describe themselves as secular.

The new Palestinian state would prohibit any Jews from being citizens, from owning land or from even living in the Muslim state of Palestine. The Ambassador of the PLO to the United States was asked during an interview whether "any Jew who is inside the borders of Palestine will have to leave?" His answer: "Absolutely!" After much criticism, the Ambassador tried to spin his statement, saying that it applied only to Jews "who are amid the occupation." Whatever that means, one thing is clear: large numbers of Jews will not be welcome to remain in Islamic Palestine as equal citizens. In contrast, Israel has more than 1 million Arab citizens, most of whom are Muslims. They are equal under the law, except that they need not serve in the Israeli army.

The new Palestine will have the very "law of return" that it demands that Israel should give up. All Palestinians, no matter where they live and regardless of whether they have ever set foot in Palestine, will be welcome to the new state, while a Jew whose family has lived in Hebron for thousands of years will be excluded.

To summarize, the new Palestinian state will be a genuine apartheid state. It will practice religious and ethnic discrimination, it will have one official religion and it will base its laws on the precepts of one religion. Imagine what the status of gays will be under Sharia law!

Palestinian leadership accuses Israel of having roads that are limited only to Jews. This is entirely false: a small number of roads on the West Bank are restricted to Israelis, but they are equally open to Israeli Jews, Muslims and Christians alike. The entire state of Palestine will have a "no Jews allowed" sign on it.

It is noteworthy that the very people who complain most loudly about Israel's law of return and about its character as the nation state of the Jewish people, are silent when it comes to the new Palestinian state. Is it that these people expect more of Jews than they do of Muslims? If so, is that not a form of racism?

What would the borders of a Palestinian state look like if the Palestinians got their way without the need to negotiate with Israel? The Palestinians would get, as a starting point, all of the land previously occupied by Jordan prior to the 1967 War, in which Jordan attacked Israel. This return to the status quo that led to the 6 Day War is inconsistent with the intention of Security Council Resolution 242, which contemplated some territorial changes.

The new boundaries of this Palestinian state would include Judaism's holiest place, the Western Wall. It would also include the access roads to Hebrew University, which Jordan used to close down this great institution of learning founded by the Jews nearly 100 years ago. The new Palestinian state would also incorporate the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, in which Jews have lived for 3000 years, except for those periods of time during which they were expelled by force.

It is contemplated, of course, that Israel would regain these areas as part of a land swap with the Palestinians. But there is no certainty that the Palestinians would agree to a reasonable land swap. Palestinian leaders have already said that they would hold these important and sacred sites hostage to unreasonable demands. For example, the Western Wall covers only a few acres, but the Palestinian leadership has indicated that these acres are among the most valuable in the world, and in order for Israel to regain them, they would have to surrender thousands of acres. The same might be true of the access road to Hebrew University and the Jewish Quarter.

When Jordan controlled these areas, the Jordanian government made them Judenrein—Jews could not pray at the Western Wall, visit the Jewish Quarter, or have access to Hebrew University. There is no reason to believe that a Palestinian state would treat Jews any differently if they were to maintain control over these areas.

An Apartheid, Islamic, Judenrein Palestine on the 1967 borders is a prescription for disaster. That is why a reasonable Palestinian state must be the outcome of negotiations with Israel, and not the result of a thoughtless vote by the United Nations.

The Palestinians and Israeli leaders are now in New York. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has offered to sit down and negotiate, with no preconditions, a realistic peace based on a two-state solution. President Abbas should accept that offer, which will actually get the Palestinians a viable state rather than a cheap paper victory that will raise expectations but lower the prospects for real peace.
http://www.hudson-ny.org/2442/united-nations-palestine




Push for Palestinian state at UN must be rejected: It will hurt Arabs and Jews alike

New York Daily News - Alan Dershowitz - Wednesday, September 21st 2011, 4:00 AM


An apartheid, Islamic, Judenrein Palestine based on the 1967 borders is a prescription for disaster. That is why a reasonable Palestinian state must be the ...

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/09/21/2011-09-21_push_for_
palestinian_state_at_un_must_be_rejected_it_will_hurt_arabs_and_jews_al.html



Inernational: From Israel to New York - Jews, Christians Protest Hamas Led ...‎ Israel News Agency


By Joel Leyden

Israel News Agency


New York --- September 20, 2011 .... Thousands of Jewish and Christian protesters are taking to the streets in Jerusalem and in New York to protest a UN vote on the creation of a Hamas led Palestine...


The issue is not a vote at the UN. The issue is that of an all out PR campaign of incitement and violence coordinated by Iran, Syria, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah which will transcend into a regional war in the Middle East.


The Israel Defense Forces are preparing for mass riots as the Israel Defense Forces Home Front Command prepares bomb shelters for it's citizens.


Mark Regev, spokesman for the Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, criticized the Palestinian effort last Friday, calling it a violation of the Oslo Accords, the 1993 agreement between Israel and the PLO.


"The Palestinians made a commitment to Israel and the world, to resolve all outstanding issues through negotiations. The Palestinians are violating their signed commitments."


Regev also threatened the PA, saying that if they proceed with their UN action either with the General Assembly or the Security Council, "Israel will reserve the right to respond in kind". Several Israel lawmakers have suggested responding by annulling the accords or by annexing all or part of the entire West Bank. The West Bank, which never belonged to any entity known as Palestine, belonged to Jordan before the 1967 war.


While many protest a UN vote for a Palestine that has openly stated that it would not allow Jews inside their country, a state of Apartheid, Americans are also out in the streets protesting the arrival of Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The New York based advocacy group United Against Nuclear Iran, is protesting outside the Warwick Hotel in Manhattan where Ahmadinejad is staying.


"Ahmadinejad is the leader of a criminal regime allied with al-Qaeda and other terrorists, and guilty of atrocious human rights violations," the group said in a statement. "Would the Warwick be willing to accommodate Osama bin Laden's successor Ayman al-Zawahiri were he to visit Manhattan?"

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Sunday, July 03, 2011

Arab-Islamic Apartheid VS. Israel's cosmopolitan beautiful equal-for-all transparent democracy

Tuesday, June 07, 2011

'Arab Spring,' Christian Winter (Islamic apartheid)

'Arab Spring,' Christian Winter - Islamic apartheid

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Islamofascism: Obama wants to reward "democratic Egypt" with $1 billion in debt relief. Only, "democratic" Egypt is torching churches and slaughtering Christians left and right. There's a howling disconnect between the president's Pollyannaish ...

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011

Islamic apartheid: Turkey

Islamic Turkish genocide and racist apartheid against Armenians



The Armenian genocide - Richard Diran Kloian - United Armenian Commemorative Committee, Armenian Assembly, Central California Region, 1981 - 304 pages - Page 285 The first genocide of the century was planned and perpetrated in the most atrocious way, because, we believe, the Young Turks were convinced that the Turkish race is the only one entitled to live on the land it occupies... http://books.google.com/books?&id=5ik_AQAAIAAJ&dq=racist

Portraits of human behavior and performance: the human factor in action - Page 80 - Senyo B-S. K. Adjibolosoo - University Press of America, 2001 - 449 pages Second, many social conflicts of the twentieth century have racial and ethnic undertones. For example, the Turkish government has yet to accept responsibility for the genocide committed against the Armenia people in 1915. http://books.google.com/books?id=BkRqGTjrigYC&pg=PA80



Turkey Attacks Israel

Does The Ottoman Empire Want to Lead the Caliphate?

by Phyllis Chesler

NewsRealBlog

May 31, 2010

[...]

As a matter of historical fact, the Turks have a long and bloody history of cruelty and genocide. They colonized the entire Middle East, forced conversions or murdered those who resisted. Islamic gender and religious apartheid flourished.

http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/784/turkey-attacks-israel







Turkish Islamic Apartheid against Greeks


End the illegal Turkish occupation



The 3Rs: 1 Remove all Turkish troops from Cyprus 2 Repatriate all colonists 3 Return all refugees to their homes without preconditions, restrictions or discrimination



In 1974 Turkey invaded Cyprus, illegally dividing the country and committing war crimes and mass human rights abuses. Hundreds of thousands of Greek Cypriots were ethnically cleansed by the Turkish army.



Turkey continues to violate international law and United Nations resolutions that demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army and the right to return for Greek Cypriot refugees.



We are protesting because Turkey still maintains its illegal apartheid regime that racially discrimates against Greek Cypriots by preventing them from returning to their homes and lands.



The Greek Cypriots are the legal owners of 82 percent of land in the occupied north and we want to return. We will never give up our properties to those who seek to profit from their theft and illegal purchase.



Is it right that Turkey, which aspires to join the European Union still maintains military occupation of one third of the Republic of Cyprus, a country which is a full member of the EU?



The human rights of the Cypriots must be restored, so that we may live in a truly reunited Cyprus with the full rights enjoyed by all other EU citizens.



While Turkey continues violating the human rights of EU citizens and destroying the European culture of occupied Cyprus, it is unacceptable that it is allowed to proceed with EU accession negotiations.



We call on your support to put pressure on EU governments to help end the illegal occupation of Cyprus and to end Turkish apartheid in Cyprus.



The 3Rs: 1 Removal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus 2 Repatriation of all colonists 3 Return of all refugees to their homes without preconditions, restrictions or discrimination




http://www.hellenesonline.com/go/2009/11/end-the-illegal-turkish-occupation/



The Cyprus Problem Cyprus maintained that Turkey's policy was aimed at dividing Cyprus along racial lines. Subsequently, 200,000 Greek-Cypriot swere displaced. [...] In addition, in August and September 2001, the international community had a meeting for the World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance, declared its universal recognition of “the right of refugees to return voluntarily to their homes and properties in dignity and safety, and urge[d] all States to facilitate such return.” http://www.aunitedcyprus.com/



Official report of debates: Part 4 - Page 743 Council of Europe. Parliamentary Assembly - 1990 - Preview A viable and just Cyprus settlement cannot be based on a situation of apartheid, under which Cypriots are forcibly segregated on the grounds that Muslims and Christians, people of Turkish origin and people of Greek origin, cannot live together. Such segregation not only contradicts fundamentally Turkey's own policy of integration with the European Community, but also constitutes a recipe for suspicion, resentment and conflict. http://books.google.com/books?id=-zVt4bluYSgC&pg=PA743



The Middle East, abstracts and index: Part 4 Library Information and Research Service - Northumberland Press, 2005 - Page 623 The plan would allow settlement of Greeks in the Turkish zone, but creates an apartheid system of careful quotas of Greek resettlement to maintain a Turkish Muslim majority in the north and links the desire of Greek Cypriots to Btum to their home with Turkey accession into EU: up to 18% of the population could be Greek under the plan.. ... Therefore it is no surprise either that the leaders in the Uthmani Khilafah like Sultan Abdul Hameed valued Islam, http://books.google.com/books?&id=aLptAAAAMAAJ&dq=btum



Turkish human rights violations in Turkey and Cyprus (2007)



Ismail Cem, Turkey's Foreign Minister recently complained that the European Union had offered Turkey only a "third class ticket" on the train of accession to the European Union. Others would say that Turkey was extremely fortunate to have even been considered for membership given its appalling tradition of human rights abuses.



For the past two hundred years, Turkey has achieved what is undoubtedly one of the worst human rights records in the world. The Turks have ethnically cleansed or otherwise mistreated ethnic minorities within Turkey and the peoples of neighbouring countries.



These include the Armenians, Bulgarians, Cypriots, Greeks, Kurds, Romanians and the Serbs. Turkey has the unenviable record of having conducted the first genocide of the 20th century when from 1915 to 1918 one and a half million indigenous Armenians were annihilated.



Lately, the Turks have turned their attention to those of their own people who have the courage to speak out against human rights abuses in Turkey.



Killings, disappearances and torture of lawyers, journalists, trade unionists, intellectuals and others remain well documented and are frighteningly commonplace in modern day Turkey.



Amnesty international recently reported that Turkey is the 5th worst country in the world for torture in jails, whilst the US State Department reports that the human rights situation in Turkey continues to deteriorate despite the promises of the Turkish government. In its annual report to Congress on human rights the Clinton administration stated that Turkish security forces committed "serious human rights abuses" during 1997.



Today, Turkey wages a dirty war against the Kurds who are fighting for recognition of their identity, and the right to express their language and culture. Almost 30,000 Kurds, government forces and civilians have been sacrificed. Three million Kurds are now refugees, and 3,000 Kurdish villages have been razed to the ground by Turkish troops.



This policy of human rights violations and ethnic cleansing is just as evident in the occupied north of Cyprus.



Turkey invaded the Republic of Cyprus in 1974 under the most spurious circumstances, causing death, rape, torture and forced displacement of persons, acts which are well documented by the European Court of Human Rights.



Turkey has created an illegal apartheid regime in the occupied area forcibly separating the Greek Cypriots from the Turkish Cypriots, violating a fundamental tenet of the European Union - the principle of free movement.



The few remaining Greek Cypriots enclaved in the occupied north are subject to continuous attack, harassment and intimidation, relying on United Nations protection and hand-outs in order to survive. They are also denied the right to secondary education, in violation of international law and the UN Charter on Human Rights.



No one can treat the hapless Mr Cem or Turkey itself with any credibility for so long as Turkey persists with her atrocious tradition of human rights violations. Sadly history teaches us that Turkey's policy on human rights has not and is unlikely to change.



Lobby for Cyprus urges the European Union leaders not to pursue a policy of appeasement with Turkey.



Human rights violations in Turkey 1994 1995 1996 1997 (Jan-Nov) Assassinations 292 89 78 103 Civilians killed by military 458 230 119 133 Disappearances 328 220 194 62 Deaths in custody 298 122 190 97 Killed in clashes 5,000 3,894 2,859 2,323 Torture cases 1,000 1,412 348 343 Number arrested 14,473 14,473 20,434 24,999 Number imprisoned 1,209 2,101 2,071 1,197 Journalists arrested ? 461 421 284 Bombed villages 191 184 109 119 Villages burnt down/evacuated 1,500 243 63 15



Human rights violations by Turkey following its invasion of the Republic of Cyprus In 1974 200,000 Greek Cypriots were forcibly removed from their homes 6,000 civilians and non combatants were murdered or tortured to death 1,000 women and girls were raped 1,619 missing persons are still unaccounted for by Turkey. The Red Cross documented that many were sent as prisoners of war to Turkey 100,000 colonists were transplanted to the occupied area to alter the demographic composition of the island more than 40,000 Turkish Cypriots have fled the occupied area unable to coexist with the colonists over 800 churches have been looted, destroyed or turned into stables Turkey continues to ignore more than 90 United Nations and Security Council resolutions calling for the respect of human rights in Cyprus and the restoration of the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus. http://replay.web.archive.org/20081223103724/
http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/statements/fact_files/humanrights_in_turkey/Cyprus_45.htm



New Statesman - The 'desecration' of Cyprus Posted by Brian Coleman - 22 October 2007 11:34



Brian Coleman on Northern Cyprus, the treatment of Orthodox churches and why the government promotes Turkish membership of the EU



The deaths of a couple of dozen Turkish troops in operations against the Kurds and the vote by the Turkish Parliament to in effect invade Northern Iraq to pursue operations against the Kurdish people has focused world attention on a conflict which the modern state of Turkey has pursued for many decades.



Last weekend I was in Cyprus (and yes my expenses were paid by my hosts) to attend events to continue to protest about the Turkish occupation of North Cyprus in particular the beautiful town of Morphu, twinned with my home Borough of Barnet.



Whereas over the last few years the legitimate Republic of Cyprus has made huge economic strides.



On the back of EU membership it operates as a mainstream European Country. The occupied north meanwhile continues to exist in a form of Asiatic poverty with an army of occupation of about 40,000 troops.



Most of the native Cypriots (both Greek and Turkish) have long since given up and abandoned the place to settlers flown in from Anatolia.



The desecration of Orthodox churches and the wholesale stripping and sale abroad of religious icons and archaeological treasures has to be seen to be believed and the ethnic cleansing carried out in the north of this magnificent island is as bad as anything experienced in the former Yugoslavia.



Yet as the new female Cypriot Foreign Minister Erato Kozakou-Marcoullis told me in rather a forceful manner - she has a touch of the Margaret Thatcher about her - there are thousands of Britons buying property illegally confiscated from Cypriots many of whom are my constituents in North London. In fact 95% of sales in the occupied area are to Brits.



Quite why anyone would buy property they have no legal entitlement to and which, when the eventual reunion of Cyprus comes, they may well lose with no compensation at all is beyond me. However the British Government sits back and does little to prevent these sales and the environmental damage to picturesque North Cyprus which the huge building boom is causing.



This last fortnight has also shown that Britain is not alone in playing softball with Turkey; the attitude of President Bush to Congress which was discussing the Armenian genocide was bizarre.



As the Armenian ambassador explained in his excellent piece on the New Statesman website last week, nobody with any common sense denies that the Armenian Genocide of 1915 onwards took place. Yet if the Germans can admit their guilt over the Nazi Holocaust why cannot the Turks do likewise?



The plucky little democratic country of Armenia still has to contend with a blockade by Turkey not to mention the aggression of its neighbour Azerbaijan whose idea of Democracy is to pass the presidency down from father to son.



So why this desire by Britain and the US to butter up Turkey? Gone is the Cold war threat from the Soviet Union and, with the election of President Gul, the Islamists are taking over Turkey anyway. Quite how the Turks imagine they can have any place in the EU whilst maintaining their belligerence on Cyprus, Armenia and towards the Kurds is beyond me.



Exactly why does the British Government continue to promote Turkey’s EU membership? Could it by any chance be to do with Labour’s need of the Muslim vote? http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/brian-coleman/2007/10/cyprus-turkey-turkish



...Regarding the attack against Cyprus Indymedia by ...Jan 11, 2011 ... The editors of Cyprus Indymedia have been harassed the last years by the state ... a racist federal "solution" to the Cyprus problem, ... Grassroots student movements that oppose an Apartheid solution to the Cyprus problem ... http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-europe/2011-January/0111-p3.html



Zionism and anti-Zionism on the Web The Turks repressed the Kurds and the Armenians. Nobody said that Turkey is an apartheid racist colonialist warmonger state. http://www.zionism.netfirms.com/zionism_on_the_web.htm





Turkish racist Apartheid against Kurds



THE APARTHEID NATION OF TURKEY The application of Kurdish politicians Aysel Tugluk and Ahmet T?rk to restore their status as members of parliament was dismissed. Both politicians were subjected to a five-year political ban after the ban of the pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party in 2009. The Presidency of the Turkey Grand National Assembly (TBMM) rejected the applications of Kurdish politicians Ahmet T?rk and Aysel Tugluk related to restoring their status as members of parliament. Following amendments enforced after the referendum on the constitutional reform package in 2010, the Peace and Democracy Party (BDP) had applied to parliament for restoring T?rk's and Tugluk's status as MPs. Upon the TBMM's rejection of the application, lawyer ?zt?rk T?rkdogan brought the issue before the Constitutional Court on behalf of T?rk and Tugluk. On Thursday (17 March), the High Court dismissed the request "by majority vote". http://centerarnews.com/the-apartheid-nation-of-turkey-p4240-1.htm



The Kurdish conflict in Turkey: obstacles and chances for peace and democracy - Page 159 Ferhad Ibrahim, Gülistan Gürbey - Palgrave Macmillan, 2000 - 208 pages Norman Paech INTERNATIONAL LAW AND THE KURDISH STRUGGLE FOR FREEDOM Without a doubt, the fight of the Kurdish people for ... Fifteen years of fighting, resulting in thousands of casualties, still haven't made the Turkish government change its politics of discrimination, oppression and military force... This is similar to how the white Apartheid government took action against the members of the African National Congress (ANC) and even had Nelson Mandela brought to trial within the state judiciary system. http://books.google.com/books?id=qwBdLcnlu_oC&pg=PA159



Turkey's Kurds: a theoretical analysis of the PKK and Abdullah Öcalan - Page 71 Ali Kemal Özcan - 2006 - 310 pages - Google eBook - Preview In explanation of the phenomenon, Besikçi makes a comparison between South Africa and Turkey: In South Africa, the Apartheid policy essentially tended to say 'You blacks do not resemble us, you are bad, and you therefore should not join ...But Turkey tells Kurds 'you are us, You should live with us as Turks, and you must resemble us'. This racism is much more destructive than the 'you do not resemble us, you then should live separately' type of racism. http://books.google.com/books?id=BibDH6sBYw0C&pg=PA71



The Kurdish question and international law: an analysis of the legal rights of the Kurdish people - Michael M. Gunter, Mohammed M. A. Ahmed, Ahmed Foundation for Kurdish Studies - 2000 - 111 pages - page 70 The Kurdish Question and International Law [...] The international community clearly accepted the apartheid regime in South Africa as "racist" for purposes of of application of the right to self-determination (and humanitarian law where there was armed resistance to that regime) but it is unclear how much less than apartheid would be viewed as sufficiently racist to invoke these rules. As will be seen, I am convinced that Turkey qualifies as a racist regime vis-a-vis the Kurdish people. H. Gros Espiell, op cit. at 11-13: "[N]o one can challenge the fact that . . . the principle of self-determination possesses the character of jus cogens." Gros Espiell also indicates numerous instances in United Nations human rights... http://books.google.com/books?&id=ySU5AQAAIAAJ&dq=apartheid



Sharpeville, Cizre and Pristina - CTheory.net by CT Sites - 1999 - Related articles Apr 12, 1999... action in the case of South Africa and the apartheid regime was dismantled ... "The Kurdish population of Turkey is in exactly the same ... http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=211



On the occasion of Peace March solidarity visit to Sheridan Circle AKIN 01/10/2001 00:00:00 The Statement of Kani Xulam on the 210th Day of the Cell of Atonement On the occasion of Peace March solidarity visit to Sheridan Circle [...] Our presence here predates September 11, 2001. Our vigil to atone for the political crimes of Turkey against the Kurds began on March 5. On that day, seven years ago, Leyla Zana and her parliamentarian colleagues were arrested and imprisoned for speaking up for Kurdish rights. They had engaged in hunger strikes, political sit-ins and demonstrations to end the Turkish version of the Apartheid. But the system did not want to change. Instead, it imprisoned them and has kept them in prison ever since. http://www.kurdmedia.com/article.aspx?id=2008



The Problem with Playing Defense « Commentary Magazine Publicly demand reparations from Turkey for the costs of the operation, including the medical bills of the thugs and Jew-haters who have been given such lovely medical care in Israeli hospitals.



3. Demand a UN investigation of why Turkey is funding terrorist organizations that are involved in attacks on Israel.



4. Fund a Kurdish human-rights NGO in Israel — there are lots of Kurdish Jews who I’m sure would be happy to help — that raises awareness of the plight of Kurds in Turkey. (Short answer: they are treated horribly.) This organization must publicize the apartheid conditions of Kurdish life in Turkey and churn out op-eds, studies, videos, and press releases denouncing Turkey’s brutal and racist treatment of its own minorities.



5. Fund a Turkish-language documentary on the Armenian genocide, upload it to YouTube, and promote it heavily in Turkey. If Erdogan wants to call Israel a criminal and a murderer, there’s no reason why Israel shouldn’t return the favor on this most sensitive of issues. http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-problem-with-playing-defense/



In its Third Report on Turkey, the European Commission Against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) reported that in the case of Kurds, the freedoms of expression, assembly and association continue to be "severely curtailed, especially in practice" and that Kurds continue to be "subject to prejudice and stereotyping" (15 Feb. 2005, 22; see also Freedom House 2004). Similarly, Country Reports 2004 indicated that "Kurds who publicly or politically asserted their Kurdish identity or use[d] Kurdish in the public domain risked censure, harassment, or prosecution" (28 Feb. 2005, Sec. 5). http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,,QUERYRESPONSE,TUR,,42df619da,0.html



Turkish State’ racism and the Kurdish websites KurdishMedia.com - By Hadi Elis16/01/2007 00:00:00 Turkish brainwashing (non-) Education System teaches the pupils that "We are the Greatest Nation on Earth", " One Turk is worth more then the whole world", and many other racist lies. For almost a century Turkish State said there are no Kurds, Kurdish language, and Kurdish-land, Kurdistan; denied anything related to Kurds and Kurdistan. These lies are falsified everyday over the Internet where anything about Kurds and Kurdistan is well and alive. Sun Language Theory and Turkish History Thesis claims that the origin of civilization has begun with the Turks... http://www.kurdmedia.com/article.aspx?id=13894



Turkish press on Cyprus Cyprus. Grapheion Demosion Plerophorion, Cyprus. Grapheio Typou kai Plerophorion - 1978 - Page 46 However, what does Ecevit have to say about racial attacks, genocides and the national oppression policy adopted against the Kurdish people in Turkey? http://books.google.com/books?&id=mBtbAAAAMAAJ&dq=Kurdish



Official journal of the European Communities: Debates of the European Parliament: Issues 433-435 1993 - Snippet view Back in 1 99 1 , the short-sighted policies of our governments in the Gulf reopened the Kurdish question. ... And for these reasons, the tourist industry is a prime target of the regressive forces of fundamentalism, intellectual obscurantism, isolationism and religious and racial apartheid. Yesterday in Egypt, today in Turkey, and tomorrow... http://books.google.com/books?&id=WWWJAAAAMAAJ&dq=isolationism





Turkey's Anti Alevi apartheid



11/2/10



Alevi Apartheid in Turkey (Academic Research Results)



Today Vatan Daily one of the most popular newspapers of Turkey published a summary of an academic research about Alevi Apartheid.














Maras Alevi Massacre more than 8000 Alevi civillians killed by sunnis with the help of sunni state police and army!











Alevi?



Alevism is a religion and there are more than 25 million Alevi citizens living in Turkey. Alevis are tolerated, secularist, peaceful people. Turkey is modern because of Alevi people. The most famous Alevi is Ataturk! Alevis are living in many countries not only in Turkey. Most of the Alevis are Turk but there are also Kurdish, Zaza, Persian, Arabic Alevis.



Alevis are facing with discrimination in Turkey International media and Turkish media is still ignoring Alevis. This research results are shocking. I am not surprised because I am an Alevi and I am facing with these problems too.



Research was made by academician Aykan Erdemir and it took 18 months. Thousands of Alevi people took place in this research. Reserchers talk directly with 258 Alevi and also asked questions to 1672 Alevi online from different cities!



Turkey is managed by sunnis since 1950, now President, Prime minister, ministers are all sunni. There is not even 1 Alevi minister in the AKP government! But 35 to 40 percent of the population of Turkey is Alevi! Also there are no Alevi Governors, 81 of the 81 cities governors are all sunni too. The police force is nearly all sunni too! That means Alevis are not represented in the state and Alevis don't have the constitutional rights although the Turkish Constitution is clearly rejecting racism and apartheid!



In every part of the social life the doors are closed to the Alevi individuals. This is not declared openly but this rule is shaping the things as a hidden secret rule! Alevis are tolerated till they have success but if they became an academic rector or became a important high rank army officer sunnis are reacting! the researcher is a sunni but he also realize the ugly truth; if An Alevi is successful the sunni system is starting to oppress this person. You don't have to be an adult it starts in the primary school! If you are one of the best students in the school sunni teachers can give you some zeros without any reason! You can be the best student in that class but you are Alevi you should have low points because they don't want successful Alevis. This is happening even in the best schools of Turkey! Also the situation is same in the universities. If you are a state worker or officer or working for a private company you will also have problems because of being Alevi!

The sunnis will always give the jobs and positions to sunnis you can be the best engineer but you will be discriminated and a sunni will take your position. But if an Alevi decide for a job he/she will give the position to the one who deserves.



Also rich Alevis are attacked by the sunni state with every legal and illegal way. The sunni state don't want rich Alevis sunnis are taking our lands our companies by manipulating the laws and government power!



According to research Alevi Apartheid is rising and becoming more systematical day by day and this is the most strict and aggressive apartheid in Europe! The discrimination against Alevis is in every where state works or private works, education, employment, health, religion, during army duty. Alevi citizens are facing with different procedures because of their secularist peaceful religion and beliefs!



The different procedures against Alevis includes, hate speech, threatening, discrimination and even sometimes to death or torture!



Mr. Erdemir described this as ''The doors are all closed for every level of social life to Alevi people!'' Sadly he is right our struggle starts since child hood of course some Alevi babies are not lucky enough to survive during the sunni attacks. Many Alevi babies were massacred during Alevi Massacres by sunni civilians even some Alevi babies were tortured with their parents by sunni police!



The discrimination against Alevis includes apartments, cemeteries, accommodation sites and streets! In Turkey people are hiding their identities not to be targeted by sunnis! But that doesn't work for Alevis as hiding himself/herself is very hard mostly impossible for an Alevi. Alevis don't fast, don't pray namaz or go to mosque on friday, Alevis are very liberal Alevi women don't wear Turban or Burka or Niqap! Also the roots of Alevis are more clear due to the ottoman persecutions and Alevi Genocides! Alevi people lived as tribes to protect themselves so Alevi citizens are easy to track from their hometown or home villages.



The media is also controlled by sunnis. Alevis are good at science, art, literature, music most of the positive figures of Turkish history are Alevi people like Ataturk, Rumi, Asık Veysel, Yunus Emre. But no way if you are an Alevi you can not be a journalist, columnist and you can not write about Alevism in a newspaper. The media will only told what the sunni state want to be told about Alevis! Alevis are the owners of Turkish music and literature but there is not even 1 Alevi columnist in the Hurriyet Daily. You are an Alevi the more you make your job better the more sunnis will hate you! Things are different in Turkey!



The sunni state is building mosques in Alevi villages or Towns! Alevis pray in Cemevi (Alevi Worship House) so building a mosque to Alevi villages is just to make them uncomfortable! The sunni state is sometimes building 2 mosques in the same Alevi village but there are no sunnis living there! Also sunni state is putting sound systems to play sunni ezan in the Alevi villages which don't have mosques! And sunnis made Genocides to Alevis so quess how Alevis are feeling it is like building a nazi center in a Jewish town and playing the nazi songs 5 times a day!



The sunni state is oppressing Alevi villages by governors or by government officers. Sunni state is not serving Alevi villages water lines, schools, roads, health facilities are just other ways to oppress Alevis more. The sunni state is not building the roads or water lines or just building it cheaply and when it needs fixing state never fixes it. The sunni state don't want Alevis to be happy.



Hace Bektas is a Dai (Alevi Leader) who is very important for Alevis. He is a philosopher who used to write the basics of the Declaration of Human Rights centuries ago which is still a part of our religion. His town is holly for Alevis. The AKP government shoot down the electricity of the water pumps in this town! Hacıbektaş Town can not pay the electricity bill because the municipality is nearly having no money from the government. Every year millions of people are visiting this town and paying to the government for the tickets to enter the Hacıbektaş Cemevi! Alevis have to pay to enter their house and this money is not even used for Alevis!



More than 20 years there is no crime in Hacıbektaş town although sometimes more than half million people are sleeping in the streets during the festival. So the jail is closed since 1995! And sunni state is punishing this town can you believe that! What kind of a state do that! Crime is very low in the Alevi community because of the Alevi lifestyle!



Also the researchers asked to Alevis to compare their situation with 5 years ago, most of them told that the apartheid is becoming more and more strict and the situation is really awful for Alevis. (No need to make a research everyone knows that Alevis are oppressed more day by day in Turkey)



Also Diyanet (the religion ministry) is using billions of dollars just for sunni religion. The budget of Diyanet minister is more than 8 of other ministers! Alevis give tax but take nothing except torture, assassinations, mass murders, insults...



9 of the every 10 Alevis told that there is religion discrimination against Alevis and religion based discrimination is very common in Turkey




3 of the every 4 Alevi told that he/she was discriminated more than once in a year.



Alevis are also telling that they are facing with gender discrimination, discrimination for being handicapped, for their sexual preferences, for their ethnicity, for their age,



4 of the every 5 Alevi told that plural discrimination is very common in Turkey which means discrimination is done by groups and in public.



9 of the every 10 Alevis told that they witnessed discrimination of other Alevis in the last 1 year.



Alevis also told that they don't care about the ethnicity or the life style or the religion of their neighbors and don't feel disturbed from being neighbors with them. Roman, Christian, Jewish , Handicapped, homosexual neighbors or neighbors from different ethnicity is okay for Alevis. ( there were several researches which pointed that half of the citizens in Turkey don't want to have Christian or Jewish (non-Muslim) neighbors. ) The sunni and Alevi citizens are different like back and white.



Also according to research the percentage of Alevis who have friends from other ethnicities or other religions (non-muslim) or homosexual friends or Roman friends is very above the Turkey's general percentage. That is because of Alevism if you just search Alevism you will see that it is impossible for an Alevi to make discrimination against other people.



Also between 2002 and 2007 anti-Alevist islamo-fascist AKP government built 3555 sunni mosques! But there were only 179 Alevi Cemevis (Churchs) at the time! Now there are 85,000 mosques in Turkey a mosque for every 210 sunni! European Union and USA is just ignoring this fascism 25 million Alevi is living in a nazi camp!



Erdogan is telling that he is proud of ''Ebu Suud'' who ordered and committed genocide to Alevis during his rallies!



I can confirm all of these and more so Alevis don't want to live with sunnis...



http://haber.gazetevatan.com/etkin-bir-yere-gelmedikce-alevilere-tahammul-ediliyor/337990/1/Gundem
http://eastanbultimes.blogspot.com/2010/11/alevi-apartheid-in-turkey-academic.html


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Monday, January 10, 2011

World eagerly awaits for S. Sudan to separate from 'Arab Islamic Racist Apartheid' in the north

World eagerly awaits for S. Sudan to separate from 'Arab Islamic Racist Apartheid' in the north



Sudan's Referendum: Will Africa's Largest Country Split in Two?‎
The Women's International Perspective - Reem Abbas - (Jan. 2011)
His vision was for a “New Sudan” - formulated along the lines of post-apartheid South Africa.
http://thewip.net/contributors/2011/01/sudans_referendum_will_africas.html


Battle for peace in Sudan: an analysis of the Abuja conferences, 1992-1993 - Page 33
Steven Wöndu, Ann Mosely Lesch - 2000 - 247 pages
'Racial and religious apartheid ... [is the central problem] in the Sudan' [1:19 Nhial Deng] and 'racial and religious ... [3:43-44 Deng Alor] The North looked to the Arab-Islamic world whereas the South reacted by turning towards black ...
http://books.google.com/books?id=SynjyYRvm4YC&pg=PA33


Burden of Nationality: memoirs of an African aidworker/journalist, 1970s-1990s - Page 65 - Jacob J. Akol - 2006 - 288 pages
The current population of the Sudan is estimated at close to 30 million, of which one third is in Southern Sudan, ... there is no more apartheid in Africa, while in reality the Islamic Fundamentalism in Sudan is worse than apartheid. ...
http://books.google.com/books?id=EhAarggJTjIC&pg=PA65


Sanction Sudan like apartheid South Africa, Tutu says Reuters 5 Jun 2007 ... BRUSSELS, June 5 (Reuters) - The international community should press Sudan to end the conflict in Darfur with the same kinds of sanctions ...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL05206033._CH_.242020070605



Uganda/Sudan: The slow, violent death of apartheid in Sudan ...19 Sep 2006 ... By the time you read this article, the fate of the long-suffering people of Darfur will most likely have been decided at an emergency ...

http://www.afrika.no/Detailed/12818.html


[PDF] South Sudan, an introduction
By Chinweizu
A presentation to the Nigeria-South Sudan Friendship Association (NISSFA), in Lagos, 26 MAR 2008


Sudan is the microcosm of Black Africa’s unacknowledged Arab problem, a problem of racism, colonialism, enslavement and an Arab agenda of cultural, political and territorial expansion at the expense of Black Africa. It would take a fat book to adequately explain these matters; however, the brief answers to the 11 questions below attempt to throw preliminary light on the situation of the Afro-Sudanese.


Q1: What is the basic problem in Sudan?
In Sudan, Black Africans (The Afro-Sudanese in South Sudan, Darfur, Nubia, etc) are fighting against an Arab settler minority regime, ruling from Khartoum. They are fighting against a racist, Arab supremacist rule that is worse, much worse, than Apartheid. The Sudan situation has many of the features of Apartheid and, to make things worse, the raiding of black African villages by Arabs who sell black captives into slavery in Northern Sudan and other parts of the Arab world, is still going on there today in the 21st century. Slave raiding was not even part of the loathsome evils of Apartheid.
The South Sudanese, after a 50years war of liberation (1955-2005)—the longest war in Africa-- finally got Khartoum to sign the Comprehensive Peace Agreement, CPA, in 2005. The CPA has the backing of the International Community. It grants the South Sudanese limited autonomy through the Government of South Sudan, and provides for a Self-Determination referendum in 2011. The referendum will give the people of South Sudan the chance to decide whether South Sudan will remain within Sudan or secede and become independent.
In a replay of how Khartoum unilaterally abrogated the 1972 Addis Ababa peace accord that ended the Anya-Anya phase of the Afro-Arab race war in Sudan, [an accord that, like the CPA, also granted regional autonomy to South Sudan], Khartoum is determined to kill the CPA, and is maneuvering to resume war on South Sudan and prevent the referendum.
http://www.houseofknowledge.org.uk/new/doc/6_South_Sudan_and_the_problem_of_Arab_racism_in_Black_Africa.pdf


[PDF] Is Sudan not an Apartheid State?


QUESTION TIME PATRICK VAN RENSBURG


Non-interference was used by South Africa's Apartheid regime to counter UN ... Have the military rulers not sought to make Sudan an. Arab and Islamic state? ...
http://www.rightlivelihood.org/fileadmin/Files/PDF/Literature_Recipients/van_Rensburg/van_Rensburg_-_Sudan.pdf


The Apartheid Propaganda 28 Aug 2004 ... Beyond exposing the absurdity of the charges against Israel, it is time to put Arab and Islamic racism - as shown in Sudan and elsewhere ...
http://www.aish.com/jw/me/48909392.html


Video: A 'lost boy' of Sudan returns to rebuild his homeland


January 7, 2011


On Sunday, the people of Southern Sudan will begin voting on whether to remain part of a unified Sudan or become an independent state. Sudan, Africa’s largest nation, is an oil-rich country run by Islamist Arabs. What happens there matters to all of us for strategic and humanitarian reasons. Here’s what you need to know:


For generations, southern Sudan has been dominated by the Islamist-run government in Khartoum, which has sought to impose Sharia law on the south’s Christians and animists.


Religion is one of the main causes of two bloody civil wars that have killed two million southern Sudanese. Another point of contention: control of Sudan’s oil reserves that lie mostly in the south and along the border with the north. If, as expected, the south votes to secede, many fear another wave of violence, despite assurances from Sudan’s president, Omar al Bashir, that he will accept the results of the election: “If the south secedes, we will welcome it.”


But can Bashir be trusted? He has been indicted as a war criminal for his brutal military campaign against rebels and civilians in Darfur. That fighting, which began in 2003, has left 300,000 dead. Need to Know sent producer George Lerner to southern Sudan to report on one former refugee’s efforts to help rebuild his homeland in anticipation of a vote for independence.


The Winston Foundation, The Corporation for Public Broadcasting and PBS.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/video/video-a-lost-boy-of-sudan-returns-to-rebuild-his-homeland/6249/


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Tuesday, May 11, 2010

APARTHEID BY MUSLIMS


Apartheid today practiced by Muslims

May 2, 9:00 AM NY

Israel Conflict Examiner

Richard Shulman


StandWithUs has a computerized booklet that first defines South African apartheid and then discusses equivalent apartheid by the Palestinian Arab Muslim and Muslims elsewhere.


Blacks are caught and enslaved by Arabs in Sudan. [Those that are not dispossessed or murdered, that is.]


Under the heading of “gender apartheid” are honor killings of females and Iran’s execution of thousands of homosexuals. But the government’s borrow from the South African practice of enforcing the various types of Muslim Arab apartheid by brutal force.


Saudi Arabia flogged Christians for practicing their religion publicly. Christianity is discouraged but allowed if kept apart from the rest of society.


North African Arab states practice discrimination against native Berbers, though they are Muslim. [Saddam attempted genocide against the native Kurds of Iraq, though they are Muslims, too].


Then there is the Muslim Arab notion of Jews being inferior beings [like Nazi racism], leading to persecution of them [and expulsion of about 850,000].


Arab states exclude Palestinian Arab refuges from citizenship. Lebanon bars them from many occupations. They have been segregated.


Muslims in Egypt sometimes kidnap Christian children [and women] and forcibly convert them.


As for the Arabs in the Territories, they rule themselves. Israel does not rule them (StandWithUs )


The booklet mentioned Arab states expelling Palestinian Arabs, but that wasn’t segregation, that was self-defense. The Palestinian Arabs tried to overthrow or help Saddam overthrow their host country.


Isn’t it interesting that one does not hear protest over that real expulsion of Palestinian Arabs done by Arabs. One only hears protest over the non-expulsion of Palestinian Arab refugees from Israel. Such a selective ethical code does not seem ethical at all. It is a pretext.


Among the photographs were those of women murdered by Muslim relatives, even in the U.S., for being too Western or dating non-Muslims. It was pathetic, even heart-breaking, not just illegal.


Some readers accuse me of not caring about injustices to Arabs. If they read my articles, they will find that I report injustices to Arabs, but I find this is by Arabs to Arabs. These same readers never once showed any concern about that.


Some readers accuse Israel of racism. But the Arabs are the aggressors and Israelis the victims and defenders. Israelis see the conflict as a matter of defense or of territorial adjustment. By contrast, the Arab cause is religious, and the religious view is that Jews are inferior beings genetically disposed to bad character. That is racist. No one such reader ever denounced the real Muslim Arab racism. Their name-calling is not just poor upbringing, it is unjustified.

http://www.examiner.com/x-7095-NY-Israel-Conflict-Examiner~y2010m5d2-Apartheid-today-practiced-by-Muslims




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Sunday, May 02, 2010

ARAB APARTHEID AGAINST JEWS - THE "PLAN"

As Jonathan Tobin points out, the official goal of the Middle East "peace
process" is a "two-state solution", in one of which Muslims live alongside Jews
and have voting rights and representation in the legislature, while in the other
there are no Jews at all and, as in "moderate" Jordan, to sell your house to a
Jew is a crime punishable by death. There goes the neighborhood, right? When the
western campus left holds its annual "Israeli Apartheid Week", presumably it's
in philosophical support of the notion that you don't need to run an "apartheid"
system if you just get rid of everyone who's not like you.
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Israel should have [a long time ago] press the UN for:
1) Condemming Arab Muslim 'Palestinian' parents, teachers, leaders, Mullahs, for using Arab kids as human shields and as human bombs, clarifying the real culprits in Arabs' deaths.
2) Violations by ILLEGAL PA Arabs "settlers" on Israel's "agreed" borders by the UN.
3) "Palestinian" Violation of virtually ALL agreemants pacts with Israel (Oslo, Camp David, etc.).
4) The PA official media & education = hate (crimes) campaign on "the joos", (not just on Israel...).
5) Exposing the constant intimdation on nations by the GOLIATH ARAB MUSLIM (oil) block, to tarnish innocent Israel in the UN.

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TO THE ARAB MUSLIM ANTI-ISRAEL PROPAGANDIST:

1) Are you denying that the Arab racist attacks on Jews in Israel/"palestine" has started since 1838 (Safed) [so were the attacks in 1883, 1920, 1921, 1929 - Hebron, etc.]?

2) Had Israel be a (mostly) Arab-Muslim State, would the intolerant Arab-Muslim Goliath world not accept them?

3) Why is there a complete silence on the historical fact of Arab immigration late 1800s early 1900s into Israel/"palestine"?

4) What anti-Israel bigotry is stronger, the "Arab racism"; factor? or the 'Islamic-Jihad' factor?

5) 'Moral equivalence' Do you have Arab activists on behalf of Israeli victims, just like you have Jewish, Israeli, Zionists activists for the (so called) 'Palestinian cause' (whatever that is...)?

6) If humane Israel would really go after "unarmed poor palestinians" as the 'Pallwood' propagandists tell us, How many Arabs would have survived Israel's might?

7) Who's more at fault, the Arab Muslim "Palestinians" parents pushing for Shahid-isim, or the indoctrinating Mullahs, Imams in the holy Mosques for using "Palestinian" kids and women as human bombs and as human shields (so they can blame the Zionists when Arab kids die)?

8) What would have happened if Arab Muslim "Palestinians" would have invested as much energy in rebuilding their lives as they do in destroying both nations' lives in fascistic Jihad, total hatred and campaign for GENOCIDE [to "drink the blood of the Jews" or to "push them all to the sea", or to "wipe them off of map"]?

9) Why does "bad" IDF Israeli army announce an area residents' civilians to evacuate before an operation against terrorists?

10) Why did Humane Israel's IDF invented specially low range missiles designed to hit ONLY the [terror] target and minimize collateral damage?

11) When was the last time the "Palestinian" well oil-ed propaganda machine has retracted [or even apologized] for it's usual PALLYWOOD fake images industry?

12) What's the difference between a Christian in Indonesia, Buddhist in Thailand, Christian in Nigeria, in Philippines, Australians in Bali (2002), non Muslims in London (0707/2005), in Madrid (bombing), "not the-right-kind-of-Muslims" in Shiite-Sunni hateful massacres in Iraq, oppression & massacres in the "Islamic Republic of Iran", and Israeli victims of the same "evil ideology"?

13) What's a harder oppression, your "average" Arab Muslim regime's on it's own people, Hamas-tan Islamic Apartheid [which most "Palestinians" supported!] on non Muslims, or the pro-Jihad parents' on their kids?

14) What would have happened if at least ONE Arab Muslim nation [regular or oil-ed one] would really care about the Arab [brothers, that since the 1960's started to call themselves as] "Palestinians" and let them get off the terror slum into normality and even prosperity?

15) What part of 'BLIND FASCISM' do Arab-Muslims deny, the usual obsessed anti Israel demonization [no matter what Israel does] or the reluctance to see Israel's super kind gestures for those that are trying to kill them [releases from prison, giving away own land vital to it's security, humanitarian aid, etc.] not as goodness but as "weakness"?

16) Why is it that when Islamists terrorists [Hamas or Hezbullah, Islamic Jihad, etc.] succeed in making sure Arab kids die [with their known tactics of cowardly firing among or behind children, etc.] the Arabs, Muslims rejoice and the Israelis, Jews are saddened ?

16) How can land be an issue [or the blatant lies the Arab lobby's financed: Jimmy Carter has said, though he admitted that Israel is a great equal democracy for all, Arabs and Jews alike!'] if "moderate" Palestinian official government still has venomous hatred and pro 'death cult' in it's regular curriculum and on it's official TV, or that such "moderate" Arab media outlets [like Al Jazeera] still glorify mass murder as "martyrdom"?

17) Who's more powerful, the Arab Muslim Goliath Oil mafia "lobby" on the world or a Chinese, Italian, Israeli, Irish, pharmaceutical, cigarettes lobbyists in Washington?

18) Had the International Arab Muslim lobby of nations in the UN [or the EU] not threatened other nations to bash Israel 24/7 [motivated by intolerance only!], What would be then the outcome?

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Let's make it clear, even if there will be a "Palestine" state, it will never change the factual history, that a group of foreign Arab immigrants came into the (historic) land of the Jews (and started to call themselves as "Palestinians" in the 1960's) and hijacked the world comunity via terrorism and Arab oil power to give them yet a second 'Palestine' state (after Jordan).

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