What went wrong with the Iraq-war, (but now that we're there, we better finish the job)

1) Lack of real tangible plan, what's 'after Saddam'.

2) Ignoring 'the wars between themselves', the sectrarian hatred & old clashes, racism on non Arabs (like Kurds), this is connected to part 3 as well.

3) By not learning the lessons that even if we help them things either don't change or even get worse!

A.

Lebanon (1980'), that the US was there to help Lebanese stabilize it's fractions' war (Christians, Druze, Maronites, "palestinians", Arab Muslims, until the Iranian Hezbollah killed a few hundreds of Americans & had to leave), not realizing that the fascism inherited by radical Arabs & Muslims , well embedded into their vast majority to hate the "other", especially when the 'other' is Christian & ("infidels" in Jihadi term) Powerful (in other words, America).

B.

1990's US Rescues Somali Muslims from tyranny, but Somali Muslims return bitter fire for the kind-sweets, American soldiers are tortured, murdered, mutilated and dragged on Somali streets by "grateful liberated Muslims"...

C.

US, The main initiator to free the Muslim Bosnians in Europe, didn't earn any points to now 'like the US' by Muslim world.

Thus Bush illusion that "The Arabs Muslims will like us if we help them", was/is totally wrong, since that hatred is based on pure racial tradition & radical Jihadi curriculum.

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So What had to be done?
If to remove him?
Involving only a well careful thought out plan-operation by a commando on Saddam himself and his closely tight unit-guard.

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The only "solution" to that hatred that is anciently old, somehow cooled off for a short period of time (though never ceased), but developed & "elaborated" in the 1800's, in Egypt, Sudan, (Turks on Armenians), etc. is on THEIR side, they have to change, but of course they'll say it's because of this or that, that's their game, at the end of the day, the ball is in their hands.

Basically, the same solution that is in all Jihad VS West, which is just about all over your atlas map.

Document: Link between Al Qaida & Saddam Hussein, confirmed

Source: http://www.nysun.com/article/29746

The document actually talks about the link between Al Qaida & Saddam, which --even that-- many liberals till try to deny, until this day.

Now, from links to Al Qaida prior to 9/11 add to it the hatred to the US - motive, plus the logistic-capabilities he had as a military regime, What else do you need to understand the connection?

Why is it so difficult to believe he had provided aid to the largest terror attack?
Why wouldn't he?----Next you'll hear the predictable cabal of "anti-war" warriors explaining that the document is "propaganda".Oh, well, we have been through that before.

Next you'll hear the predictable cabal of "anti-war" warriors explaining that the document is "propaganda".

Oh, well, we have been through that before.

Did you hear about Islamists murdering 13 in the Philippines?

http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/mar/27philip.htm

13 killed in Philippines blast
March 27, 2006 16:50 IST

A bomb exploded Monday at a crowded market killing 13 people in the latest deadly attack in southern Philippines, officials said.
About 26 others were injured in Koronadal city, said Police Chief Superintendent Danilo Posadas.
A second bomb was found two hours later and taken away by a police bomb squad.
Koronadal Mayor Fernando Miguel said the Muslim extremist Abu Sayyaf group, which is on the US list of terrorist organisations, claimed responsibility for the attack.
In a radio interview, Miguel said a man identifying himself as Abu Solaiman of the Abu Sayyaf group called him shortly after the blast, warning of "more bombings in the days to come".
The man has been calling since 2005 demanding four million pesos (€70,000) monthly to "spare Koronadal city from bomb attacks", the mayor said, adding he had refused.
There was no independent confirmation that the call came from Solaiman, who has been linked to bombings in General Santos city farther south and is one of five Abu Sayyaf leaders with a €4.2m bounty offered by the US State Department for kidnappings and killings in the southern Philippines in 2001-02.
Posadas said an initial investigation indicated the bomb was fashioned from an 81 mm mortar shell. Police suspect the person who planted it died at the scene.

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The deafening silence in the media about this, like the typical BBC (Biased BS Crap).

Just imagine a "minor" story, if a radical Arab Muslim terrorist would be on the run, in the shooting, some shrapnel hurt a child bystander, how loud would BBC scream?

But intentional Jihadi mass murder usually are not highlighted unless you can incorporate it well into an "insurgency/fighting" context theory.

ARAB MUSLIM GOLIATH LOBBY vs "David" non Arab Muslims...

So It's just fine with a Chinese lobby, a Japanese lobby, a textile lobby, a tobacco lobby, (so many of them in Washington, apologies for those lobbies I left out...) or what have you, oh, last but not least, the ARAB MUSLIM LOBBY, Saudi, or other wise, (wait, How can we ignore the cute other Oil-y Arab Muslim "moderate" influencing powers) but God forbid the few Jews, oh no, we wouldn't be allowed to say: ARAB MUSLIM LOBBY is HIJACKING (not only Washington, but) the entire GLOBE!!!

The ISLAMO ARAB GOLIATH LOBBY http://lightonthings.blogspot.com/2006/02/islamo-arab-goliath-lobby.html

Start by : why the UN has the longest record on "denouncing" Israeli defenders from Arab baby murderers, Why do you think it is?

Start by: why the EU reluctance to include Israel (as oppose to corrupted no-democracy-model: Turkey,) that is --at least -- no worse than ANY western European country, it's free & open democracy, free press, free elections, etc., and yes advanced education and technology, Why do you think it is?

Start by why so many countries around the world are giving in to pressure to shun & not even include Israel in their "normal" activities, Why do you think it is?

Start by why so many countries have been blindly "automatically" voting against Israel in the UN, not even knowing what happened, never bothered to find out any background or minimal info on each single case, Why do you think it is?

Start by why so many countries are giving in to Arab Muslim pressure not to trade with Israel, in their vicious 50+ years against the only country that experiences this blatant racism, Why do you think it is?

Start by the very recent example of major media (even) in the US bowing to Arab Muslim pressure not to "offend" them with a little comic draw, while they are demonizing other religions full force, Why do you think it is? (or is western fear of Islamic violence "better" than reading an article by a "zionist"?)

Start by many more examples, but finish-conclude acknowledging the very fact: why no one even talks about Arab Muslim oil & violent-threats (the other more "humane" influence-tool) ?About the Arab Muslim Goliath?

[Because it's not just a matter of 'the Pot Calling The Kettle Black ...', that's a gross understatement.]

Ask yourself again, but not in the open, because, (you can say whatever you want on the "few Jews" I. E. "DAVID", but don't dare touch the "poor" Arab Muslim powers, restrain yourself back real tight, you CAN'T say anything, you better not,) that's right, well, they are the real Goliath!
So powerful that there isn't even a discussion on it.

This attempt of blowing up the victim to a "monster" is so classy, classy of the source these two professors' report on the 'lobby' is all rooted in, that's right, it's all out now in the open, as we all know by now, a dreadful neo-Nazi site, "tradtionally" pumping air into the victim that he looks "big and powerful", it suits the objective of demonization campaign very well.


http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/650/documentid/3364/history/3,2359,650,3364 Israel as a Security Asset for the United States

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/402910p-341257c.html There is no Israel 'Lobby'

http://www.nysun.com/article/29741 Harvard's Paper on Israel Drew From Neo-Nazi Sites

http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=555 Poisoned ivies

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5342 Stehpen Walt's War with Israel

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21720 The Islamization of America?

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/013507.php Professor Mearsheimer's first sip

The missing piece
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/013494.php

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/22/135819.shtml Attack on 'Pro-Israel Lobby' Has Flaws

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR2006040401282.html?sub=AR Yes, It's Anti-Semitic

http://www.dafka.org/NewsGen.asp?S=4&PageID=1107 HARVARD'S PROTOCOLS OF ZION

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=35&x_article=1099 Study Decrying “Israel Lobby” Marred by Numerous Errors

http://www.opinioneditorials.com/freedomwriters/jbiga_20060326.html Israel the Good Under dog

http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief005-20.htm The Basis of the U.S.-Israel Alliance

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50062
Exposing the Muslim Lobby!

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A Nation Like Ours - Jeff Jacoby (Boston Globe)

• America's longstanding solidarity with Israel suits most Americans just fine. U.S. policy tends to align closely with Israel's because Americans like Israel. They instinctively sympathize with Israel's fight for survival in one of the world's most dangerous neighborhoods. Americans recognize in Israeli society a modern liberal democracy - a country like their own.
• With all its flaws, Israel has the freest and fairest political system in the Middle East and the only one that guarantees complete freedom of worship to Christians and Muslims.
• Israel is an invaluable American ally - a stable and dependable base in a most unstable part of the globe. From military R&D to world-class intelligence services, from a deepwater port to sophisticated air facilities, from counterterrorist expertise to a solid democratic culture, Israel brings assets to its strategic relationship with the U.S. that few countries can match.
• American history is deeply rooted in Judeo-Christian soil, nourishing a special kinship between America's Christians and the Jewish people. ''I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation," former President John Adams wrote in 1819.
• Americans sympathize so strongly with the Israelis because both face a common enemy. Unlike Walt and Mearsheimer, who can find ''no moral basis" for taking Israel's side, most Americans make a clear moral distinction between suicide bombers and their victims.

Technorati - Islamic Jihad Freedom Muslim lobby Arab lobby Islamists infiltration Muslim propaganda Islamic Propaganda Dhimmi Dhimmitude Islamic terrorism

Arabs, Muslims first class citizens in democratic Israel?

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395680496&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull Temple Mount shut to non-Muslims on election eve

What do you know, do you expect a demonstration by "peace activists" crying out the "injustices" of Israelis towards Jews and other non Muslims "second class" discrimination? Or only if it's a security step that controls more of the heavily populated Arab Muslim areas (so called "palestinian" areas) that "shock" the "peace organization" or the "fair and balanced" UN?

Well, of course Israel's prime concern is saving lives, security comes first, which is why they understood that it's better not to allow non Muslims in that delicate place at this season, or decided to conduct a search in a suspected terrorists' house, Oh, Oh the latter gets a different title in most press.

Bosnian Muslims' Crimes

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/index.html Bosnia under Muslims again - BOSNIA: ENSLAVING CHRISTIANS

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/joksimovich/002.shtml The Bosnian Jihad

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/061.shtml Al-Qaeda in Bosnia: Bosnian Muslim War Crimes Trial

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/16/international/europe/16bosnia.html?_r=1&fta=y&oref=slogin Top Muslims Guilty of Abuses in Bosnia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3254890.stm BBC NEWS Europe 'Brutal crimes' of Bosnia Muslims

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/03/bosnian-war-jihad-in-europe-part-1.html The Bosnian War. A Jihad In Europe? - Part 1

http://www.geocities.com/famsflasfjddsafj/4.html Facts About Muslims - Serbia-Montenegro

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/14muslimconflicts.html 14 Muslim on-going Conflicts in the World

Some of Arab Muslims Massacres, Terror & Genocide, before Israel was Re-established

Massacring the Maronite Christians in Lebanon (1860) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/2587/1860.html http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/lebanon/History/ottoman.htm

Early BLOODY Jihadi violence

http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/mike/mahdi1881.htm Mahdi's Jihad war Egypt/Ethiopia/Sudan 1881-1889

http://www.meforum.org/article/713 Islamic Beheadings in early history

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/11chapter3.shtml Algeria

MASSACRES

The 1915 massacre on Christian Armenians: http://armenian-genocide.org

The 1929 massacre of pious Jews in Hebron Israel http://www.hebron.org.il/1929/tarpat.htm

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/recruited.html Bosnian Moslems recruited the Nazi SS by Yasser Arafat's 'Uncle'

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/farhud.html The Farhud, the Mufti inspired Krystallnacht in Iraq, 1941

http://www.judeoscope.ca/article.php3?id_article=0390
65th Anniversary of the Baghdad anti-Jewish Pogrom (Mufti's legacy of Arab racism & Islamic Jihad) The Farhud: The forgotten Holocaust Pogrom

http://stevenplaut.terrorism%20without%20occupation,%20some%20lessons%20from%20the%20early%20arab%20pogroms_/
Terrorism Without Occupation, Some Lessons From The Early Arab Pogroms

http://www.judeoscope.ca/breve.php3?id_breve=1551
Egyptian-Italian journalist: ’Hamas’ terror is not a reaction to the occupation "Israel’s right to exist is today the international criterion for distinguishing between the terrorist camp and the camp of life," says Magdi Allam, the Egyptian-Italian journalist and writer who is now visiting Israel.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+before+2000/Which+Came+First-+Terrorism+or+Occupation+-+Major.htm Terrorism came before (the so called) "occupation

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Miscellaneous...

http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/Godhra/godhra034.htmConsider the 'provocation' forsimilar acts of Islamic barbarism in Kerala in 1921: the Moplah Rebellion inMalabar. There was no provocation by Hindus, who were minding their ownbusiness. However, in distant Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Pasha had abolished thecaliphate! This was the reason for the murder, rape and forcible conversion ofthousands of Hindus -- who were purely convenient bystanders -- and looting,arson and destruction of much property.

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http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5281 Muhammad and Massacre of the Qurayza Jews

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Israel "palestine" - 101

Child Murderer awarded honorary Palestinian citizenship

"Societies measure their heroes in different ways. Some societies honor athletes or performers. Others celebrate caregivers and humanitarian workers. The Palestinians, on the other hand, have consistently chosen to honor murderers as their national icons. "...

More at the link http://www.pmw.org.il/Latest%20bulletins%20new.htm#b130306 Child Murderer awarded honorary Palestinian citizenship

Now you tell me what part of this Islamic-Palestinian horror entity is not sick.

So is the UN that has covered and boosted this cult from hell for years by "condemning" Israel for daring to attempt to survive and wishwashing palestinian Arab Muslim crimes against humanity by blankets of "freedom" slogans.

'You are "oppressed" therefore you could do most evil, and should get awarded'.

"Palestinian" kids, take heed and learn...

The Message from ALL Americans in rejecting ports to "moderate" ARAB MUSLIMS

The Message from ALL Americans in rejecting ports to "moderate" ARAB MUSLIMS:

We don't trust you, we MIGHT act on the outside as IF there's much volume in these so called "moderates" (because we are a peace-loving nation), but don't you dare test us, when push comes to shove, we do NOT trust you with our lives, our fate, or in anything for that matter.

Bush is not only out of touch with Americans, but with ANY reality.

http://goldwater.mideastreality.com/2006/mar/09_08.html
It has united Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill, and the American people overwhelmingly oppose the deal

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Why you ask?
Shouldn't we encourage moderate Arab Muslims to keep on helping us in the war on terror?
Of course we should, but for goodness sake.

Blame only the faslehood and full-off-holes in the 'moderate' Muslims as in UAE, as in still recognizing the "cute" Taliban, as in still having Israeli businesses dealing via a sub company, so it 'looks "good" in the Islamo Arab -- mostly -- fascist world.
As in C.A.I.R. supporting terror on one hand and "denouncing it" ONLY in a way it suits them politically.

Do us all a favor and don't raise your eyebrows, UAE & Arabists lobbyists!

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Related:
http://lightonthings.blogspot.com/2006/02/bushs-repeated-mistake-on-arab-muslims.html
Bush's repeated mistake on Arab Muslims, "Oh just give them opportunity and they'll be like us", ???

The ball is only in their hands, Mr. Bush!

to prove to us that they change,

that they are into "moderation",

Remember?

So, when will we learn how destructive 'appeasing them' really is?

Have we learned that appeasing them is only destructive?

1) Super givers Israelis give the Arab 'Palestinians' not only chunks of their own land but much of it's vital security buffer zones. Arab 'Palestinians' STILL respond with horrendous butchery of the innocent, and overwhelming votes for Terrorist Hamas.

2) The Spanish vote for liberal Zapatero and he pulls out of Iraq after Arab Muslims murder in Madrid. Arab Muslims are caught in Spain every other week with plots to continue it's massacres.

3) Western (old) Europe opposes Iraqi operation. They get the October-2005 Islamo Arab violent intifadah.

4) Universities & mainstream media plays the 'politically-correctness' themes in giving in to Arabists or Islamists "oppression-claims", even giving in far than Europeans and don't even publish the "offensive" cartoons to their (so called) "prophet".
A typical Muslim alumni runs over, excuse me: MURDERS in COLD BLOOD his classmates, for Allah.
Or largest mosque in Ohio plans more terror attacks.
Or those 'sleepers-cells' that never sleep...

CNN's (venomous) John Vause: How to launder a butcher

The spinner on "palestinians" is at it again, CNN's John Vause had a 'drama' report (March-2-2006) in a desperate attempt to "polish" the butchers & "humanize" them.

Well of course he used very well the latest trendy "pragmatic" title attached to Hamas chief Ishmail, he even interviewed a neighbor that remembers "young" Hamas "spiritual" leader as "good" mannered.

In a blatant clearly open propaganda style, John starts off:
"This is the man Israel wants the world to ignore"...

As if US does not, or as if EU is so happy with him, this low hateful venom of: "isolating Israel" is a well worked-out tactic by haters, starting from Islamic Hitler in Tehran - Ahmadinejad, to Islamo Arab mainstream "moderate" media, through Neo Nazis.

Hey, John!
I really feel for "reporters" like you that are frustrated with majority of Arab 'Palestinians' showing their real true colors of pro-murdering of the innocent (in voting for Hamas), but, don't twist facts to suit your feelings, honesty & true facts are first rules about journalism, if that's really what you were intending to do.


http://www.honestreporting.com/quiz/takequiz.asp

ECI: EU partly to blame for rise of Hamas Statement by the European Coalition for Israel

ECI: EU partly to blame for rise of Hamas Statement by the European Coalition for Israel
30th January 2006
http://www.ec4i.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=1
ECI: EU partly to blame for rise of Hamas Statement by the European Coalition for Israel
The European Coalition for Israel deeply deplores the landslide election victory of Hamas in the recent Palestinian Legislative Council elections. A radical Islamic fundamentalist organisation, Hamas continues to refuse to recognise the State of Israel, rejects the right of the Jewish people to live in any part of the Middle East and is through its many suicide terrorist attacks is responsible for the death of hundreds of Israeli civilians.
The overwhelming popular vote for Hamas undoubtedly reflects the widespread anger ordinary Palestinians feel towards the corrupt leadership of the late Yasser Arafat's governing Fatah party. Yet it is deeply disturbing that that a clear majority of Palestinian people would consciously vote for a militant Islamic alternative.
We see this as a direct result of the systematic Islamisation and radicalisation of the Palestinian youth over the past twelve years since the establishment of Palestinian self-rule.
Although this radicalism was spearheaded by Hamas through an exceptionally well-funded network of youth programs and social outreach, it is in no small degree that Fatah used its apparatus of government: the school system, summer camps and state television - to ferment hatred towards Israel and glorify those 'martyrs' willing to use terrorist atrocities to further the Palestinian rejectionist cause.
For the following two reasons, the European Coalition for Israel views the election of Hamas as a direct consequence of Europe’s failed funding policy towards the Palestinian Authority.
Against their better knowledge and despite repeated warnings the EU has consistently chosen to ignore the radical incitement against Israel which continues to take place in Palestinian Schools.
EU-funded textbooks not only ignore the existence of the State of Israel but openly endorse Palestinian shahids (suicide bombers) as courageous role models exemplifying a selfless devotion to Islam and the Palestinian national struggle. We see the election of Hamas as the fruit of the seed of radicalism sown through EU negligence and with European taxpayers money for more than a decade since 1994.
The European Union has consciously ignored the widespread corruption and misuse of funds by the ruling Fatah administration.
The pervasive culture of PA corruption, nepotism and fraud of the current Fatah leadership is recognised as the deciding factor behind the electorate's recent defection to Hamas.
Despite repeated warnings, the EU has continued to pour unprecedented amount of funds into a corrupt system without applying minimum standards of accountability, auditing or respect for human rights and thus is indirectly culpable for the failure of Fatah and rise of Hamas.
This longstanding EU attitude is probably best summed up by Chris Patten - the former EU Commissioner for External Affairs who stated, that he wanted the issue investigated "like I want a hole in the head".
In the light of the above, The European Coalition for Israel urges the EU to immediately review its failed funding practices. We believe that the model of “Moral Leadership Funding” outlined in the ECI position paper: "European Leadership Funding, Investing for Peace in the Middle East", could have lead to a different election result in the Palestinian territories, and opened the doorway to the prospect of future peace.
We recognize that since the recent Palestinian Legislative Council elections, the situation has become far more complex than in the past.
However we call upon the European Union to fundamentally alter its Palestinian funding philosophy and take a far more stringent approach towards the newly elected administration of Hamas if it seeks to foster regional peace.
European Coalition for Israel http://www.ec4i.org/
Brussels, 30th January 2006

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I think they were mighty soft on the EU, since they are located in the EU, they have to be a bit 'contained', truth is, the EU is LARGELY to blame in boosting up the "you are a oppressed palestinian, it's OK what EVER you do".

Don't expect the NY Times to make the 'Jihadi Muslim running down classmates' on frontpage.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/12801.html

Muslim Student Runs Down Classmates at UNC

http://www.wral.com/news/7743390/detail.html Suspect In UNC Hit-And-Run Smiles, Waves At Court Appearance

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Update:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011397.php Letters from a mujahid

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1795 Taheri - Azar ' used an SUV as murder weapon because he could not get a gun' reads Koran in court during victim testimony

The Persecution of Christian Arabs by their Muslim Arab "brothers"

http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp490.htm THE BELEAGUERED CHRISTIANS OF THE PALESTINIAN-CONTROLLED AREAS
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/arabs/christianme.html The Christian Exodus from the Middle East
http://www.chretiens-et-juifs.org/article.php?voir%5B%5D=258&voir%5B%5D=2810 The Christians in the Middle East
http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archives/006529.shtml Burning Villages, Christian Indifference
http://www.michnews.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/124/4241 There they go again, those Arab Racists
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Briefs/7373.htm 'Muslims persecuting Bethlehem's Christians'
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20583 Persecuting the Holy Land's Christians.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53574
Nazareth Muslims: 'Islam will dominate the world', March through town described in New Testament as Jesus’ childhood home 'meant to intimidate Christians'

'Christians must accept Islamic rule' - Israel News, YnetnewsYnet News: Militant leader in Gaza says missionaries will be 'dealt with harshly,' demands women wear headscarfs. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3414753,00.html -

israelinsider: Briefs: Gaza Jihadis justify attack on school ...Gaza Jihadis justify attack on school, blaming UN "Christian missionaries". By: israelinsider staff. Published: May 9, 2007 ... http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Briefs/11334.htm